Monday, November 19, 2012

Travel meets


Travel Meets!!!

So what is a "travel meet?" A travel meet is when a potential SD wants to have you come to him, meaning you are required to travel. In the SD/SB world, a lot of men travel and/or reside in different locations and want to bring you to them. This can be a fun experience (Travel for free, why not!) But there a some safety rules you should always follow.

First time travel meets.

A first time travel meet is when you are initially meeting a potential SD. This is not later on in the arrangement when he invites you to travel with him. A lot of women are opposed to traveling to actually meet someone, but in a lot of cases it can be a fun experience. You get to travel for free and you are usually well taken care of while you are there. However there is a couple rules I always follow when I travel for the first time to someone. Here they are...

1) I always ask that my flight be round trip and paid upfront either directly by the gentleman or by money provided to me through the gentleman. A lot of men will give you the "Ill fly you out here see how it goes and then we will get you a flight back." Never ever do this. You could very well end up stranded, and or paying for your own flight back. Keep in mind you can always adjust your flight if you get there and want to stay longer. A lot of men will also be skeptical to give you the money to buy your own flight. This is a valid feeling, as many girls take the money and run. If he insists on booking for you, decided on the dates, and then you can both look online for something that works. All you have to do is provide your name and DOB. A lot of women like to keep this personal, but in cases like these it's impossible.

2) I always have a hotel booked under my name. While a lot of women opt to stay at the gentleman's home, I highly advise against this. Keep in mind you are meeting this person for the first time. You could be walking into a not so pleasant situation. What if he's not who he said, what if you guys don't click, etc , etc. For the first meeting it's always good to have your own place to stay at, that way if things don't work out as planned you are not stuck at his place, or worse stuck paying for your own place. I always ask that he either provide me with the means to pay for the hotel, or he pays directly upfront and books it in my name. Another point to be cautious about is him saying he will pay once you get there. You always want everything taken care of upfront. What if he doesn't show, what if he refuses to pay once your there, etc , etc. Again you would be stuck.

3) I always tell someone where I am going. It doesn't matter what you say, but tell a friend, family member, or someone your close to where you will be and how long. When I travel, I always just tell a close friend I am traveling with another friend or for work. In the rare case something goes wrong, at least someone knows where you are.

4) I always bring enough money to make it by for the time I am there. Normally the gentleman will take care of you and your expenses, however in the case he isn't who he claimed, or you guys don't click, you need to make sure you can get by till you get home.

Now its story time!!! Here is a great story of a friend of mine who traveled to meet a potential SD and didn't follow the rules above.

A friend of mine, who also uses SA.com received an offer from a gentleman who wanted to fly her to FL to meet him for a weekend. She gathered information on him, did her best background check, and when everything seemed good, she accepted. He purchased her flight upfront and said he owned a large home where she could stay with her own room and whatnot. She accepted and two weeks later she flew to FL. When the gentleman picked her up he was in fact the man from the pictures but something seemed off. She went along anyway and drove to his home. This is where things went from suspicious, to downright bad. He lived in a small one bedroom, that was in an apartment complex. His place was old, very messy, and he smoked inside. This is where the above rules would have come in handy. She tried to stay one night but couldn't stand it. She ended up leaving and booking a hotel room because it was too expensive to change her flight. The gentleman didn't offer to pay for any of her meals, any outings, or the switch to the hotel. The trip ended up costing her a couple hundred dollars and she was miserable. It turned out that the man was in fact partially who he claimed, however he had been fired almost 6 months back. He currently had very little savings and no income.

Aside from this story, there are tons of similar ones I can share but I won't bore you. Moral of the story is that you should always be prepared for the worst but hope for the best.

Saturday, November 17, 2012

Online chatting, screening, and first time meets

So you have ventured into the world of online SD/SB dating….now what? In the sd/sb online dating world you don’t even have to be highly attractive to get bombarded with messages, inquires, offers, etc. So the tedious part is weeding through all the fakes and flakes to find a legitimate SD. Below is a bunch of tips and general rules to go by when dating online, and meeting for the first time. Good luck ladies.

1st) A rule for you!

-Use real up to date pictures or don’t use any. While putting up a photo of a model may get you more responses, or putting up a photo of you 5+ years earlier when you thought you were slightly slimmer, is not a good idea. Keep in mind if you do happen to reach the point of meeting with a SD, a misrepresentation of yourself could cost you a potential arrangement. My current SD said the worst thing he experienced while dating on seeking arrangement was women who had completely old pictures (One as bad as 20 yrs+) and others who used photos that were not even them.
Now that that’s out of the way let’s venture into the rules and tips of online SD/SB dating.

Initial Looks

Before you respond to someone’s message you can learn a lot from their profile alone. Most men have a photo, a brief description of themselves, and in some cases some information about education, employment, etc. Their profile can be used as an initial screening tool, and a tool for later on in the conversation/meet.
1)Look at their age and compare it to their stats. Does their education and job seem appropriate for their age? I ran across a guy once who claimed and looked to be 25. Supposedly he had completed med school and residency and was a well-paid DR. I am sure you can do the math on this one. Unless he is a prodigy who started med school as a teen he’s probably full of crap! Take the time to read through things and make sure they seemingly align.

2)Run a check on their photo. I come across a lot of men who have professional photos on their profiles. While I know this doesn’t rule them out, it can be a red flag. Try plugging them into a site such as tinyeye.com It does a search of the image on thousands of places on the web. In one case I found a supposed CEO in CA had stolen photos of a 29-year-old model from FL. While not all images you plug in will return results, some do, and you can save yourself some time.

3)Writing style. If they claim they have a PHD or are a high paid CEO, you should expect them to display good grammar and form intelligent sentences. I came across a man once who supposedly graduated with his MBA from Harvard, yet his profile was all done in some form of Ebonics. For a highly educated man in CA who is a current big wig in the business world, this raised a red flag. Educated individuals normally spell correctly, use appropriate grammar, and speak well.

4)Income and allowance. If one or both of these two things are listed, do they seem legitimate? If a mans income is 125k a year and he’s promising 10k allowance, it probably doesn’t add up. Furthermore does their job seem in line with their income? Research what they do. I know people have outside forms of income other then their actual job, but lets just say a Dr probably isn’t worth 100million. Just be cautious, and if it seems weird or to good to be true, the odds are it is.

Time to read…

So you have been receiving tons of messages. Now it’s time to sit down and read. You can weed out a lot of men by just reading their first message. Below are some red flags to look for.

1) They bring up something sexual in the first message. A classy, legit sugar daddy usually does not do this. The men who do this are on the site for 2 reasons. First, for girls who put out with the “promise” of an arrangement, or girls who put out on a pay for play basis. There are many girls like that unfortunately, so guys like this succeed quite often. Be prepared to get tons of sexual messages.

2) They promise you the world upfront. Legitimate SD’s usually understand the importance of a connection of some sort. They are also wealthy enough to be SD’s because they are somewhat intelligent in business world, meaning they normally will take an arrangement slower. As before if it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

3) They offer you a set amount per meet. While this could be an option, when it is offered upfront without an initial meeting or having any time spent together, it usually means they are looking for a pay for play option. Proceed with caution.

4) They want to meet immediately. A legitimate SD usually likes his SB to be comfortable and will take the time to talk and get to know you a bit before meeting. Be cautious of fast meets because the gentleman is usually not looking for a true arrangement.

Time to talk and ask…

So now it’s time to respond and see what the guys are all about. With luck one or two turn out to be legitimate SD’s Below are common questions you should never be afraid to ask.

1)Their real name. This is the most legitimate tool in doing your background homework before a meet. Their name could link them to their job, their education, location, etc

2)What they do. Ask for information about their job. To avoid sounding like an interrogator pose questions as if you are interested. If they claim they are a lawyer, tell them you find law very interesting, or that you once considered it. This can make them feel like your not running a background on them but are genuinely curious

3)Ask about their prior arrangements. Have they had any? How was the experience?

4)Ask them to be clear with what they want upfront? What do they expect an arrangement to be like? What is their ideal arrangement? Why have they come to want an arrangement? This gives you an idea of what he expects upfront. If you two do not see eye to eye, you can move on.

Making sure a SD is real, genuine, and most importantly safe, is vital. Although there is no foul proof way to scan every guy before potential meets, the questions above can help you do some homework. With his name you can search him via a lot of different engines. You can often verify photos, occupation, location etc. If you have an email address or phone number you can search those as well to see if his number or email pops up with any other sites (dating, company, etc) A little thing I also like to do is a reverse phone search, which displays the name of the phone owner and sometimes other info like location. Below is a great little story about why some of the above tools and tricks are great.

*I met a pot SD who claimed he was a retired NBA player. I don’t know much about basketball so I went with it and looked him up on good old Google. I found a bunch of information and older photos from when he had played. We met for coffee and he looked like the photos as he walked up so I decided to continue with the coffee date. Once we got to talking though I started realizing information didn’t match up. In his bio online it said he had been married (now divorced) with 2 older children. When I curiously asked if he had kids, he said he had one that was 7, and he was never married. Red Flags! I politely sped the date along and headed home. I was intrigued to find out if he was in fact a retired NBA player, so I reversed his phone and found it registered to a completely different name. Even more intrigued, I googled that name and actually found him under an insurance co website with his exact (and current) photo. He was actually an insurance agent who was definitely not a pro athlete at any point in his life, and never made millions. Rule of this story. Do your homework!


Lastly…. Here are things never to do one a first meet.

1)Meet at his home or yours. No matter how much screening you do, you never can be sure, so you want to always meet in a public place for the first date. If he refuses, then move on because something is not right.

2)Always drive yourself to a first meet. This goes hand and hand with the above. Even if you think having him pick you up near your house is ok, don’t. Once you get in the car, you’re stuck. If something goes wrong, you have very little control over removing yourself from the situation. If you meet in public on your own, you have the ability to walk away and leave the location.

3)Do not meet at a hotel. While some SD’s do travel and stay in hotels, legitimate ones should be ok with a more comfortable public place as a first meeting.

4)Give out to much personal info. It’s ok to share your name, what you do etc, but don’t rush into something and tell him your bank account for a transfer. (Yes there are girls who do this) Make sure you are completely comfortable and sure of him before you share very personal things.

Bet you did not think you were going to be reading a book. Sorry in advance, but there are so many tips and rules to follow, I find myself having trouble narrowing it down. In the end, just exercise caution and try to follow the tips in this blog, and eventually you will meet a great SD

Friday, November 16, 2012

Where to meet Sugar Daddies...

So you want to be a sugar baby?

The world of becoming a sugar baby can be a long, frustrating, confusing, yet often rewarding journey. In this blog I share the two common options for meeting potential SD's..

Where do I go to meet a good Sugar Daddy?

Meeting a SD is extremely hard. In my first blog (which I know you read haha) I shared my first SD experience. My 1st experience was a rarity indeed. So if you not as lucky as me to stumble upon an SD without realizing it, there are a few ways to find potentials.

1) You can go out. This is a little harder because unlike websites, meeting someone in person doesn't immediately disclose your desire for an arrangement. While older gentlemen may understand a young woman like yourself is probably interested in him for the monetary gain, some of them are just plain clueless and actually think they hit the jackpot. (A hot young girl who wants nothing...Please!) The best thing to do is become familiar with higher end bars, restaurants, or clubs in your area. Where do the wealthier men hang out? In my town there are three well know spots where the wealthier men do dinner, meetings, and cocktails. When you walk in there it looks like a millionaire matchmaker dating event. Tons of older and a bunch of young girls. If your thinking gross, old man and young girl, be prepared. While not all SB/SD relationship are that way, most are because older gentlemen are more established. Lastly, in person meets can be a longer drawn out process, as it often takes a few meets to figure out if the gentleman has any potential or desire to be an SD.

2)If you are not so much for the in person thing, you can choose from a plethora of website specifically for SD/SB dating. Below are a few I have used....

SEEKING ARRANGEMENT

DATE A MILLIONAIRE

While website have the pro of allowing you to be upfront about what you are looking for, it also allows gentlemen to be whoever the hell they want. That means the poor man without a car on unemployment can be a billionaire playboy on a website. While there are legitimate SD's on website the ratio is about 1/20. With that ratio you can imagine the frustration you will go through weeding out the bad for the good. With websites you must have patience. Prepare to go on a ton of bad dates, possible be stood up, propositioned for sexual things, and then maybe an actual decent date. I bet your so excited to start....

So there is two places for you to start. In future blogs I will touch more on meetings. Please be sure to check back for my next blog on ONLINE SD/SB dating rules and tips....

Thursday, November 15, 2012


All about me!! At least for a minute

So I suppose everyone wants to know who I am. Well, not everyone but I guess if you happened to stumble across this blog you might be curious about the creator extrodanair.

Well I am pretty basic. I grew up in the beautiful Southern California. I was an un-spoiled only child (yes there is such a thing) who had two amazing parents and a close knit group of friends.

I coasted through grade school and middle school focusing a lot of attention on my unconditional love for soccer. Not to toot my horn horn but I was pretty good!

Although my parents tried their absolute best to get me to focus on school when HS rolled around, I was more interested in my outside activities (sports, friends, parties etc) so when my High School graduation creeped up I found myself facing the ultimate question "WTF NOW?" Well WTF NOW turned out to be city college, so off I went. With some guidance and hard work, I was able to transfer to a University after 2 years where I finished my BS.

Slightly feed up with school at this point I took a year off and worked. Eventually though I found myself thinking I needed a little more to get a step up in the career world so back to grad school I went. And thats where I am today.

Whooooo hooo... I am sure you found that insanely interesting, but considering this is a blog about a Sugar Baby lets take a walk down that road.

So how did I become a sugar baby? Well, it's quite different then you may think. It was slightly an accident. My sugar daddy was actually my age. Our birthday's were a month apart. I know when most people think of SB/SD relationship....they think old man young girl, but this is not always the case.

I meet my SD through a mutual friend. When I first met him I though he was kind of cute, and when he invited me to dinner the following week I accepted. Fast forward a month, we are dating. Once we had the awkward "Were official" speech, to my surprise he set me up with a joint bank account in which he advised he would deposit 2500 a month for me. Fast forward some more.... Aside from my monthly allowance, I was blessed to be spoiled rotten. If I asked or hinted for something, I usually found it on my doorstep a week later. Everything from forever 21 clothes to my biggest gift, a BMW.

So I guess you might be wondering why this blog? Am I going to share my stellar story and brag about my gifts? Nope because I no longer have that SD (Yep, we ended). So, what do I have now? I have some crazy stories of my search for another SD, my success and failures, some tips, and my current SD. So if you want to exit now feel free, otherwise step aboard and read my crazy stories, I promise you will only be slightly disappointed (haha j/k)